I wanted to give kudos to the El Dorado County DCSS. They have been the only county office to actually step up and try to figure my horrible case out. Sacramento County DCSS did nothing but screw it up and screw me over. El Dorado County has listened to my every complaint, cry and even my threats to take them to Federal court if they don't figure this out. THEY DID! IT IS POSSIBLE. I have seen many attornies that told me otherwise. So KUDOS to you El Dorado County! Keep up the good work!
PS. This doesn't mean I wont follow my case closely and make sure all the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted!
Thanks El Dorado County!
Melissa
Saturday, June 25, 2016
FEDERAL OFFSET (money from welfare collected)
I was told by DCSS that the intercepted money that was used to pay back Welfare from 20 years ago. Cannot be waived. But then I found a section of the social security act that says that the state CAN waive their rights to CALWORKS monies collected in the future, which they did in my case back in 2011, So my arguement is that the state of CA had no right to intercept ANY bad welfare monies, since it was 20 years ago and they waived their rights in court.
Here is my message to them. Of which I did in fact receive a call back from the El Dorado County office to see if it can be sent to me, since Sacramento County waived their rights to it in 2011.
My question was issued in three parts as it would not allow the entire question.
Here is my message to them. Of which I did in fact receive a call back from the El Dorado County office to see if it can be sent to me, since Sacramento County waived their rights to it in 2011.
My question was issued in three parts as it would not allow the entire question.
Question / Concern Information
2001154761
VIA SELF SERVICE WEBSITE
06/21/2016
Federal offset rules
I finally was able to look up the SS act rules for Federal offset of conditionally assigned arrearages and it looks to me that it says the state may waive their state assigned arrears amount, and I was told they could not do that over the phone. They did this in court back in 2010/11 filings when I had an attorney. Thats why it said all arrears payable to me directly. Apparently we may need a state hearing to decide this matter? REFERRING TO THESE SECTIONS: (n) DISCONTINUED ASSIGNMENTS – The term “discontinued assignments” means those assignments that a State elects to discontinue under the authority in section 457(b)(1) and (b)(2) of the Act. The State may treat amounts collected pursuant to these discontinued assignments as if the amounts had never been assigned and may distribute the amounts to the family. Assignments that may be discontinued include: (1) Pre-1997 Support
The information is being reviewed.
06/21/2016
VIA SELF SERVICE WEBSITE
06/21/2016
Federal offset rules
I finally was able to look up the SS act rules for Federal offset of conditionally assigned arrearages and it looks to me that it says the state may waive their state assigned arrears amount, and I was told they could not do that over the phone. They did this in court back in 2010/11 filings when I had an attorney. Thats why it said all arrears payable to me directly. Apparently we may need a state hearing to decide this matter? REFERRING TO THESE SECTIONS: (n) DISCONTINUED ASSIGNMENTS – The term “discontinued assignments” means those assignments that a State elects to discontinue under the authority in section 457(b)(1) and (b)(2) of the Act. The State may treat amounts collected pursuant to these discontinued assignments as if the amounts had never been assigned and may distribute the amounts to the family. Assignments that may be discontinued include: (1) Pre-1997 Support
The information is being reviewed.
06/21/2016
Federal offset rules part 2
Assignments – Any rights to support obligations assigned to a State as a condition of receiving assistance from the State under title IV-A of the Act and in effect on September 30, 1997 (or such earlier date on or after August 22, 1996, as the State may choose); 27 Conditionally-Assigned arrearages will continue to exist unless these assignments are discontinued pursuant to section 457(b)(2)of the Act and(a)State option to discontinue its assignments executed prior to October 1, 1997 A State may discontinue some or all of its assignments executed prior to October 1, 1997.Because assignments executed before October 1, 1997 encompass both Pre-Assistance and During-Assistance Arrearages without making any distinction between these two types of arrearages. Under section 457(b) of the Act, as amended by the DRA, a State has the option to discontinue any of its assignments that were in effect as of September 30, 2009
The information is being reviewed.
06/21/2016
Assignments – Any rights to support obligations assigned to a State as a condition of receiving assistance from the State under title IV-A of the Act and in effect on September 30, 1997 (or such earlier date on or after August 22, 1996, as the State may choose); 27 Conditionally-Assigned arrearages will continue to exist unless these assignments are discontinued pursuant to section 457(b)(2)of the Act and(a)State option to discontinue its assignments executed prior to October 1, 1997 A State may discontinue some or all of its assignments executed prior to October 1, 1997.Because assignments executed before October 1, 1997 encompass both Pre-Assistance and During-Assistance Arrearages without making any distinction between these two types of arrearages. Under section 457(b) of the Act, as amended by the DRA, a State has the option to discontinue any of its assignments that were in effect as of September 30, 2009
The information is being reviewed.
06/21/2016
CLOSED
Federal offset rules part 3
33 34 If a State chooses to discontinue such assignments, the State may treat amounts collected pursuant to the assignment as if the amounts had never been assigned. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE STATE WAS ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO WAIVE ITS RIGHT TO THE OFFSET AND THEY DID IN COURT. ALSO I FOUND SECTIONS THAT SAY THAT ARREARS TO FAMILY MUST BE MET FIRST BEFORE STATES ARREARS CAN BE TAKEN. I REALLY THINK WE MAY NEED A HEARING TO DECIDE THIS. I HAVE WAITED AND WORKED HARD FOR ANY ARREARS AND THINK THAT WE SHOULD RECEIVE OUR ARREARS BEFORE THE ASSISTANCE MONEY CAN BE COLLECTED. THAT SHOULD BE LAST. HOW CAN I CALL FOR AN UMBUDSPERSON? AND START THE HEARING PROCESS.
The information is being reviewed.
06/21/2016
Federal offset rules part 3
33 34 If a State chooses to discontinue such assignments, the State may treat amounts collected pursuant to the assignment as if the amounts had never been assigned. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE STATE WAS ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO WAIVE ITS RIGHT TO THE OFFSET AND THEY DID IN COURT. ALSO I FOUND SECTIONS THAT SAY THAT ARREARS TO FAMILY MUST BE MET FIRST BEFORE STATES ARREARS CAN BE TAKEN. I REALLY THINK WE MAY NEED A HEARING TO DECIDE THIS. I HAVE WAITED AND WORKED HARD FOR ANY ARREARS AND THINK THAT WE SHOULD RECEIVE OUR ARREARS BEFORE THE ASSISTANCE MONEY CAN BE COLLECTED. THAT SHOULD BE LAST. HOW CAN I CALL FOR AN UMBUDSPERSON? AND START THE HEARING PROCESS.
The information is being reviewed.
06/21/2016
They did call and say that I had a good point and they will have their supervisors look into it. I explained that I can always call for a hearing and have them decide.
I will update everyone on the reply!
KEEP THE FAITH!
Friday, June 3, 2016
Collection Update
Ok so it has been two weeks since the DCSS last collected. With the history of my case, I am wondering if, A. He quit his job, B., He got an order to vacate my order somehow (again), or C., DCSS is Oregon decided they were not responsible to enforce my order after all? (Which the are!) So lets see how this one pans out. After all of my hard work on this, to not only benefit my son, but to make a point that a technicality or mistake made by the courts shouldn't aleve responsibility of child support to your child.... Especially because the "mistake" was not ignored but fixed many times over in court. And yet still I received no support for 25 years. I really also hope this helps other custodial parents get the support their children deserve.
So here is my recent correspondence with DCSS in El Dorado County.
Property Lein
My Question 5/19/16: I wanted to find out if a judgement lien has been filed against the property that Michael now owns. I want to make sure that if he tries to sell his property or transfer it to a family member that there is a lien in place for this judgement since Oregon is not refusing to enforce it anymore. Can this judgment be filed with the county clerk tax assessors office in Oregon. It looks like it can to me. As Oregon is enforcing, they should have a lien in place. I will request confirmation.
So here is my recent correspondence with DCSS in El Dorado County.
Property Lein
My Question 5/19/16: I wanted to find out if a judgement lien has been filed against the property that Michael now owns. I want to make sure that if he tries to sell his property or transfer it to a family member that there is a lien in place for this judgement since Oregon is not refusing to enforce it anymore. Can this judgment be filed with the county clerk tax assessors office in Oregon. It looks like it can to me. As Oregon is enforcing, they should have a lien in place. I will request confirmation.
Question / Concern Detail
Monday, May 16, 2016
Welfare monies from 20 years ago intercepted.
They recently finally collected a large sum of money from my ex, in the amount of $5309. Apparently there was welfare monies on my case still owed of $3500 to Sacramento County. They got their piece first and didnt even tell me about taking it. I received a noticed of payments but they did not specifically state how much welfare monies were owed anywhere, nor did they show it as paid to Sacramento County. I had to call and get a full explanation from my worker,
Just in case you thought you didn't owe welfare monies anymore, your wrong. They never let it go. They previously waived the arrears owed to welfare in a court hearing back in 2011. Unfortunately it was not stated on the final order after hearing so I am out of luck. Wow Sacramento County, Wow,
So let me get this straight, you do nothing right for 25 years, I have to correct you at EVERY turn and even TAKE YOU to court after you close my case and you get the biggest amount out of the only enforcement you have done only because I have pursed this case with every cell in my body has anyone collected ANYTHING from this dead beat dad, By the way my son is 25 and I haven't been on welfare since he was about 5. So 20 years, seriously. That debt NEVER goes away. Even though I again have REPEATEDLY had to make you reinstate, and enforce my case, you got paid first. Good to know where we stand. This money was intercepted on 2/22/16 and I received my share of $1780 on or about April 27th. Why did it take so long?? These state departments really need to look at their systems, long and hard and see who they are hurting by their incompetence, and inaction on so many cases through out the Nation. Meanwhile they will be at their "Leadership Symposium" spending our money on their per Diem spending accounts and oh by the way, its held in New Orleans this year. Must be a blast. Hope you all sleep well knowing that Hundreds of thousands of kids and custodial parents are hurting for their measly child support from all the dead beat parents out there that think it is NOT their responsibility to help their children.
Man I am pissed. And so sick of the system we have that does nothing for the people. And could give a rats ass about any of us.
Just in case you thought you didn't owe welfare monies anymore, your wrong. They never let it go. They previously waived the arrears owed to welfare in a court hearing back in 2011. Unfortunately it was not stated on the final order after hearing so I am out of luck. Wow Sacramento County, Wow,
So let me get this straight, you do nothing right for 25 years, I have to correct you at EVERY turn and even TAKE YOU to court after you close my case and you get the biggest amount out of the only enforcement you have done only because I have pursed this case with every cell in my body has anyone collected ANYTHING from this dead beat dad, By the way my son is 25 and I haven't been on welfare since he was about 5. So 20 years, seriously. That debt NEVER goes away. Even though I again have REPEATEDLY had to make you reinstate, and enforce my case, you got paid first. Good to know where we stand. This money was intercepted on 2/22/16 and I received my share of $1780 on or about April 27th. Why did it take so long?? These state departments really need to look at their systems, long and hard and see who they are hurting by their incompetence, and inaction on so many cases through out the Nation. Meanwhile they will be at their "Leadership Symposium" spending our money on their per Diem spending accounts and oh by the way, its held in New Orleans this year. Must be a blast. Hope you all sleep well knowing that Hundreds of thousands of kids and custodial parents are hurting for their measly child support from all the dead beat parents out there that think it is NOT their responsibility to help their children.
Man I am pissed. And so sick of the system we have that does nothing for the people. And could give a rats ass about any of us.
Saturday, May 14, 2016
DCSS Keeping my collected child support with no right to do so??? Or mistake of some kind.... We will see!
So today, I received a document on the DCSS self service portal. That document was a statement of collections. That statement of collections shows a payment received on 2/22/16 for $5391.00. I never got even close to that amount. I do not owe any CALWORKS monies nor do I have any liens or judgments. So where did that money go?
My last know arrears balance was printed on 3/2/2016 and it was $87,452.89. Now when I log in it says balance is $82,153.83. I have only received two payments since re-opening this case with DCSS in El Dorado County. The first was $1738.97 on 4/21/16 and $441.45 on 5/5/16.
I have submitted this email on the portal and called the supervisor of the El Dorado County Child Support office, Aaron Powers and left a message. Lets see what their reasoning is and where this money went if in fact it was collected. I am guessing it was his tax return since he has custody of his 2 children from a recent divorce. And that is about what you would get for 2 kids and earned income credit, and it was in late February which makes sense also.
I guess I will be filing yet ANOTHER COMPLAINT about DCSS with the state hearing board.
The form is below to get anyone started that needs it. Just so you know, its a long and crappy process and last time I even WON the case, but they VOIDED my hearing documents at DCSS in Sacramento and closed my case anyway. Which was completely illegal. But again they could give a crap. I am so furious now! They finally collect a large amount like $5391 and I didn't even know they collected it. I didn't get one cent!!! I think they think I am stupid or will just give up. Well sorry DCSS you picked the wrong women to mess with.
Below is the link to get an umbudsperson and request a state hearing.
http://www.childsup.ca.gov/portals/0/resources/docs/forms/lcr001.pdf
VIA SELF SERVICE WEBSITE
05/14/2016
0670366562-01
OPEN
PAYMENT OF $5391.00 ?????
I was sent a statement saying that on 2/22/2016 $5391 was received by DCSS. I was never sent that money and it doesnt even show on payments received tab. Can you please explain. None of these funds are CALWORKS and none should of been held for any reason. So if this is monies collected back in February I should of received it months ago. PLEASE REPLY with a detailed explanation and/or call me at my number below.
My last know arrears balance was printed on 3/2/2016 and it was $87,452.89. Now when I log in it says balance is $82,153.83. I have only received two payments since re-opening this case with DCSS in El Dorado County. The first was $1738.97 on 4/21/16 and $441.45 on 5/5/16.
I have submitted this email on the portal and called the supervisor of the El Dorado County Child Support office, Aaron Powers and left a message. Lets see what their reasoning is and where this money went if in fact it was collected. I am guessing it was his tax return since he has custody of his 2 children from a recent divorce. And that is about what you would get for 2 kids and earned income credit, and it was in late February which makes sense also.
I guess I will be filing yet ANOTHER COMPLAINT about DCSS with the state hearing board.
The form is below to get anyone started that needs it. Just so you know, its a long and crappy process and last time I even WON the case, but they VOIDED my hearing documents at DCSS in Sacramento and closed my case anyway. Which was completely illegal. But again they could give a crap. I am so furious now! They finally collect a large amount like $5391 and I didn't even know they collected it. I didn't get one cent!!! I think they think I am stupid or will just give up. Well sorry DCSS you picked the wrong women to mess with.
Below is the link to get an umbudsperson and request a state hearing.
http://www.childsup.ca.gov/portals/0/resources/docs/forms/lcr001.pdf
VIA SELF SERVICE WEBSITE
05/14/2016
0670366562-01
OPEN
PAYMENT OF $5391.00 ?????
I was sent a statement saying that on 2/22/2016 $5391 was received by DCSS. I was never sent that money and it doesnt even show on payments received tab. Can you please explain. None of these funds are CALWORKS and none should of been held for any reason. So if this is monies collected back in February I should of received it months ago. PLEASE REPLY with a detailed explanation and/or call me at my number below.
Friday, May 13, 2016
Holy cow two payments in a row!
I was out of town and forgot to post sooner.But guess what? I got a second payment in a row! I received a payment on the 8th of May. That's nothing short of a miracle. Every time I have ever had a wage assignment enforced, the non custodial parent has been able to get it vacated. 25 years of NEVER receiving two payments in a row. The payment was for $440 but again that plus the $1700 is more than I have ever received in a six month period even let alone a little over a week apart.
So if you have a what you think to be an impossible and unenforceable child support case. DONT GIVE UP. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. If you need guidance, leave me a comment!
So if you have a what you think to be an impossible and unenforceable child support case. DONT GIVE UP. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. If you need guidance, leave me a comment!
Wednesday, April 27, 2016
CSDA - AKA Child Support Directors Association
CSDA - AKA Child Support Directors Association
http://csdaca.org/
Apparently you can contact these people via email and get some action. I emailed several places a week or so ago, one being the CSDA. My contact there was shocked to here how much I knew about FFCCSOA and URESA/UIFSA interstate and juridicional laws. He immediately got on the phone with the local DCSS and got an update on my case. The information he received was wrong, of course, so I helped guide him to the appropriate information. At least I am getting some action on my case. long overdue!
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